[nSLUG] Aliant vs Eastlink

Rory rory at vudu.nb.ca
Tue Jul 1 19:02:17 ADT 2003

Aliant's service agreement is used to provide leverage against "abusers".  I
think the main problem is filesharing/P2P which tends to drive constant
traffic volumes and messes up revenue models and infrastructure costs.

In practice, you can remain connected for days at a time with no problem
that I've seen.  Also the PIX comments that Dop makes are true, but no
longer relavent to new users since the Mpowered service is being phased out
and isn't available to new subscribers.  With the new service (PPPoE)  the
public IP is assigned to your machine directly instead of through PIX.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dop Ganger" <nslug at fop.ns.ca>
To: <nslug at nslug.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nSLUG] Aliant vs Eastlink

> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Donald Teed wrote:
> >   Unlimited Service for an account does not translate into
> >   allowing an account holder to remain connected even while
> >   away from the computer or to use a 'ping' type program to
> >   keep their connection alive, such as, but not limited to,
> >   checking email every 5 minutes 24 hours a day).
> >
> > I have a couple of accounts at home that are being fed
> > with fetchmail every few minutes.  I didn't think this would
> > be excessive in contrast with running a server or using
> > the current P2P stuff.  Can anyone with experience running
> > Aliant's DSL service comment on what the real world picture is?
> I suspect this is due to the Cisco PIX that Mpowered runs. The way the PIX
> works is it doles out IP addresses as needed, and when a connection has
> been unused (no open TCP connections, no UDP traffic) for a set period of
> time the IP address goes back in the pool, and the user gets assigned a
> new address if they make a new outbound connection. Back when I was
> working on Mpowered (admittedly several years ago now) the default timeout
> was 5 minutes, which more than likely has not been changed - hence the
> "checking email every 5 minutes" comment.
> The reasoning behind not allowing users to keep idle connections open is
> to make sure there's IP addresses in the pool. Similar to a dialup ISP's
> modems, the IP addresses are oversubscribed (or at least they were), so if
> all the IP addresses get used up no-one else can get out. It used to be
> that if the connection table filled up, the PIX would reboot, and
> *everyone* would lose their IP; I think now it may just drop any new
> connections instead, judging by the "sometimes it just goes to sleep and
> wakes up after a while" comments I've heard from a few users.
> Cheers... Dop.
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