[nSLUG] Setting up an Thunderbird account with Sympatico on Ubuntu 14.04

Oliver Doepner odoepner at gmail.com
Fri Mar 25 20:47:08 ADT 2016


Hi Jack,

Is that also without SSL ot TLS encryption? In terms of security that would
be really bad.

Thanks
Oliver



On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Jack Warkentin <jwark at bellaliant.net>
wrote:

> Hi Oliver
>
> The email on my Nexus 5 smartphone has worked for me, via WiFi, in several
> countries in Europe,
> using K9mail and a bellaliant email address.
>
> Jack
>
> Oliver Doepner wrote:
>
>> Yep, looks like Bell's email sucks because it is tied at the hip to their
>> internet service. How last century ... :)
>>
>> I guess they offer no encryption and SMTP auth because they "trust"
>> everyone by the client ip being one of their modems.
>>
>> So if I am not mistaken, if you are away from home, using a mobile device
>> or switched to a different internet provider their email does/will not work
>> for you.
>>
>> I would rather use an established email service like GMail or pay a small
>> fee for a top-notch service like FastMail.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 10:21 AM, D G Teed <donald.teed at gmail.com
>> <mailto:donald.teed at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Thunderbird can do anything you need. The question is, what does
>>     Bell require for the settings? The Thunderbird wizard tries to
>>     guess some typical values, but it isn't probing any sort of
>>     imformation derived from DHCP/DNS and the like, so don't be
>>     mislead by the suggestions from the wizard. Ask Bell/Sympatico
>>     what values to use in any Thunderbird - it isn't really a Linux
>>     question at that point. It involves Linux if you are trying to
>>     integrate the Internet into your local mail server. If it is only
>>     a client question, Bell's support should be able to give you the
>>     values. Just don't introduce the topic of Linux and you'll get
>>     your answers much quicker. Thunderbird is still Thunderbird on Mac
>>     or Windows, just different menu labels, etc. Also ask yourself, do
>>     you really want their email? If it is only for checking your
>>     billing emails, just use their webmail. Other email platforms have
>>     an advantage of working everywhere, and if you switch ISPs, you
>>     don't need to tell everyone your new email address.
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Monte Stevens
>>     <montestevens at eastlink.ca <mailto:montestevens at eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>         Frank Geitzler <frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.ca
>>         <mailto:frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.ca>> writes:
>>         > * I selected ‘Done’ and the following warning message appeared:
>>         > Warning!
>>         > Incoming settings: pop.bellaliant.net
>>         <http://pop.bellaliant.net> does not use encryption.
>>         > > Technical Details
>>         > Insecure mail servers do not use encrypted connectons to
>>         protect your passwords and private information. By connecting
>>         to this server you could expose your password and private
>>         information.
>>         > Outgoing settings: smtp.bellaliant.net
>>         <http://smtp.bellaliant.net> does not use encryption.
>>         > > Technical Details
>>         > Insecure mail servers do not use encrypted connectons to
>>         protect your passwords and private information. By connecting
>>         to this server you could expose your password and private
>>         information.
>>         > Outgoing settings: smtp.bellaliant.net
>>         <http://smtp.bellaliant.net> does not use encryption.
>>         > Thunderbird can allow you to get your mail using the provided
>>         configurations. However, you should contact your administrator
>>         or email provider regarding these improper connections. See
>>         the Thunderbird
>>         > FAQ for more information.
>>
>>         If you want encrypted pop3: choose port 995 instead of 110.
>>         If you want encrypted smtp: choose port 465 or 587 instead of 25.
>>
>>         I am not sure if Bell offers any of ports 995, 465, 587. I
>>         cannot find
>>         a reference to those ports on bellaliant.ca/support
>>         <http://bellaliant.ca/support>. I would try each
>>         of them, in conjunction with thunderbird's documentation on
>>         whichever
>>         checkboxes may be required. Following that, a phone call to
>>         Bell's tech
>>         support group may be required. (The published email setup
>>         instructions
>>         seem to be Microsot/Apple-centric; you may not want to mention
>>         the terms
>>         "Ubuntu", "GNU+Linux", "Thunderbird" on the phone.)
>>
>>         Here's somewhere to start learning about encryption on smtp.
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15796530/what-is-the-difference-between-ports-465-and-587
>>
>>         More reading; maybe this can help with testing if the ports are
>>         available.
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11738389/view-ssl-certificate-on-ports-587-25-110-465-995-143-993
>>
>>         Monte
>>
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