[nSLUG] Setting up an Thunderbird account with Sympatico on Ubuntu 14.04

Jack Warkentin jwark at bellaliant.net
Fri Mar 25 16:17:53 ADT 2016


Hi Oliver

The email on my Nexus 5 smartphone has worked for me, via WiFi, in 
several countries in Europe,
using K9mail and a bellaliant email address.

Jack

Oliver Doepner wrote:
> Yep, looks like Bell's email sucks because it is tied at the hip to 
> their internet service. How last century ... :)
>
> I guess they offer no encryption and SMTP auth because they "trust" 
> everyone by the client ip being one of their modems.
>
> So if I am not mistaken, if you are away from home, using a mobile 
> device or switched to a different internet provider their email 
> does/will not work for you.
>
> I would rather use an established email service like GMail or pay a 
> small fee for a top-notch service like FastMail.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 10:21 AM, D G Teed <donald.teed at gmail.com 
> <mailto:donald.teed at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thunderbird can do anything you need. The question is, what does
>     Bell require for the settings? The Thunderbird wizard tries to
>     guess some typical values, but it isn't probing any sort of
>     imformation derived from DHCP/DNS and the like, so don't be
>     mislead by the suggestions from the wizard. Ask Bell/Sympatico
>     what values to use in any Thunderbird - it isn't really a Linux
>     question at that point. It involves Linux if you are trying to
>     integrate the Internet into your local mail server. If it is only
>     a client question, Bell's support should be able to give you the
>     values. Just don't introduce the topic of Linux and you'll get
>     your answers much quicker. Thunderbird is still Thunderbird on Mac
>     or Windows, just different menu labels, etc. Also ask yourself, do
>     you really want their email? If it is only for checking your
>     billing emails, just use their webmail. Other email platforms have
>     an advantage of working everywhere, and if you switch ISPs, you
>     don't need to tell everyone your new email address.
>
>
>     On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Monte Stevens
>     <montestevens at eastlink.ca <mailto:montestevens at eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>
>         Frank Geitzler <frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.ca
>         <mailto:frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.ca>> writes:
>         > * I selected ‘Done’ and the following warning message appeared:
>         > Warning!
>         > Incoming settings: pop.bellaliant.net
>         <http://pop.bellaliant.net> does not use encryption.
>         > > Technical Details
>         > Insecure mail servers do not use encrypted connectons to
>         protect your passwords and private information. By connecting
>         to this server you could expose your password and private
>         information.
>         > Outgoing settings: smtp.bellaliant.net
>         <http://smtp.bellaliant.net> does not use encryption.
>         > > Technical Details
>         > Insecure mail servers do not use encrypted connectons to
>         protect your passwords and private information. By connecting
>         to this server you could expose your password and private
>         information.
>         > Outgoing settings: smtp.bellaliant.net
>         <http://smtp.bellaliant.net> does not use encryption.
>         > Thunderbird can allow you to get your mail using the provided
>         configurations. However, you should contact your administrator
>         or email provider regarding these improper connections. See
>         the Thunderbird
>         > FAQ for more information.
>
>         If you want encrypted pop3: choose port 995 instead of 110.
>         If you want encrypted smtp: choose port 465 or 587 instead of 25.
>
>         I am not sure if Bell offers any of ports 995, 465, 587. I
>         cannot find
>         a reference to those ports on bellaliant.ca/support
>         <http://bellaliant.ca/support>. I would try each
>         of them, in conjunction with thunderbird's documentation on
>         whichever
>         checkboxes may be required. Following that, a phone call to
>         Bell's tech
>         support group may be required. (The published email setup
>         instructions
>         seem to be Microsot/Apple-centric; you may not want to mention
>         the terms
>         "Ubuntu", "GNU+Linux", "Thunderbird" on the phone.)
>
>         Here's somewhere to start learning about encryption on smtp.
>         http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15796530/what-is-the-difference-between-ports-465-and-587
>
>         More reading; maybe this can help with testing if the ports are
>         available.
>         http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11738389/view-ssl-certificate-on-ports-587-25-110-465-995-143-993
>
>         Monte
>
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