[nSLUG] Setting up an Thunderbird account with Sympatico on Ubuntu 14.04

Oliver Doepner odoepner at gmail.com
Thu Mar 24 20:38:40 ADT 2016


Frank asked about how to address the security warnings.

Using unauthenticated SMTP would only make the security situation worse.


On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Joel Maxuel <j.maxuel at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Frank,
>
> You may want to go with IMAP instead of POP3 so that your mail would be
> available to your tablet as well (POP3 downloads and deletes, IMAP just
> downloads).
>
> According to this:
>
> http://www.bellaliant.ca/support/article/outlook-2013-set-up-email-imap/7923
>
> ...your IMAP port is 143 (the secure port, if available, should be 993).
>
> Also, SMTP, does not appear to have any login information, so you can turn
> authentication off for that.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Joel Maxuel
>
> "One should strive to achieve, not sit in bitter regret."
>  - Ronan Harris / Mark Jackson
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Frank Geitzler <
> frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> I recently attempted to set up Thunderbird email to access my existing
>> Sympatico email account, on a new installation of Ubuntu 14.04. I went
>> through the Thunderbird setup process, detailed below. Following the setup
>> process, I received a strong warning, and I decided to cancel my attempt to
>> set up Thunderbird at this point, by closing the application.
>>
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on the appropriate way for me to more
>> safely set up Thunderbird to access my existing Sympatico account.
>>
>>
>> The warning following the setup process was:
>>
>> Warning!
>> Incoming settings: pop.bellaliant.net does not use encryption.
>> > Technical Details
>> Insecure mail servers do not use encrypted connectons to protect your
>> passwords and private information. By connecting to this server you could
>> expose your password and private information.
>> Outgoing settings: smtp.bellaliant.net does not use encryption.
>> > Technical Details
>> Insecure mail servers do not use encrypted connectons to protect your
>> passwords and private information. By connecting to this server you could
>> expose your password and private information.
>> Outgoing settings: smtp.bellaliant.net does not use encryption.
>> Thunderbird can allow you to get your mail using the provided
>> configurations. However, you should contact your administrator or email
>> provider regarding these improper connections. See the Thunderbird FAQ for
>> more information.
>>
>>
>>
>> My setup procedure was:
>>
>>
>>    - I first added the Thunderbird Icon to the launcher.
>>
>>    - I then selected the Thunderbird Mail application from the launcher,
>>    and that application window appeared, together with a pop-up “Welcome to
>>    Thunderbird” window asking “Would you like a new email address?” and the
>>    default name and a default ISP. Two buttons at the bottom of the window
>>    read “Skip this and use my existing email” and “I think I’ll configure my
>>    account later.”
>>
>>    - I de-selected the default ISP, and selected the “Skip this and use
>>    my existing email” button.
>>
>>    - The ”Mail Account Setup” window appeared, with three default fields
>>    and one default checkbox shown. Those defaults were:
>>    My name: Frank Geitzler Your name, as shown to others
>>    Email address: *email at example.com <email at example.com>*
>>    Password: Password
>>    The checkbox was captioned “Remember password”,
>>    and defaulted to ‘checked’.
>>    Command buttons at the bottom of the window read “Get a new account”,
>>    “Cancel”, and “Continue”. The first two command buttons were enabled, while
>>    the last was not yet enabled.
>>
>>    - I unchecked the checkbox, and filled in the three data fields:
>>    Your name: Frank Geitzler Your name, as shown to others
>>    Email address: *frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.c
>>    <frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.c>*a
>>    Password: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>    - I then selected the ‘Continue’ command button.
>>
>>    - Thunderbird attempted to use that information to connect to common
>>    ISPs and was unsuccessful, and displayed the message “! Thunderbird failed
>>    to find the settings for your email account.” and displayed the following
>>    captions and defaults:
>>    Server hostname Port SSL Authentication
>>    Incoming: IMAP .ns.sympatico.ca Autodetect Autodetect Autodetect
>>    Outgoing: SMTP .ns.sympatico.ca Autodetect Autodetect Autodetect
>>    Username: incoming: fcgeitzler outgoing: fcgeitzler
>>
>>    Five command buttons at the bottom of the “Mail Account Setup” window
>>    now read “Get a new account” “Advanced config”, “Cancel”, “Re-test”, and
>>    “Done”.
>>
>>    - I made the following changes:
>>    Server hostname Port SSL Authentication
>>    Incoming: POP3 pop.bellaliant.net 25 Autodetect Normal password
>>    Outgoing: SMTP smtp.bellaliant.net 110 Autodetect Autodetect
>>    Username: incoming: frank geitzler outgoing: frank geitzler
>>
>>    - When I selected ‘Re-test” the message “The following settings were
>>    found by probing the given server” appeared, with the captions and settings
>>    which follow:
>>    Server hostname Port SSL Authentication
>>    Incoming: POP3 pop.bellaliant.net 110 none Normal password
>>    Outgoing: SMTP smtp.bellaliant.net 25 Normal password
>>    Username: incoming: frank geitzler outgoing: frank geitzler
>>
>>    and all five command buttons were enabled.
>>
>>    - I selected ‘Done’ and the following warning message appeared:
>>    Warning!
>>    Incoming settings: pop.bellaliant.net does not use encryption.
>>    > Technical Details
>>    Insecure mail servers do not use encrypted connectons to protect your
>>    passwords and private information. By connecting to this server you could
>>    expose your password and private information.
>>    Outgoing settings: smtp.bellaliant.net does not use encryption.
>>    > Technical Details
>>    Insecure mail servers do not use encrypted connectons to protect your
>>    passwords and private information. By connecting to this server you could
>>    expose your password and private information.
>>    Outgoing settings: smtp.bellaliant.net does not use encryption.
>>    Thunderbird can allow you to get your mail using the provided
>>    configurations. However, you should contact your administrator or email
>>    provider regarding these improper connections. See the Thunderbird FAQ for
>>    more information.
>>
>>    A checkbox labeled ‘I understand the risks’ was followed by two
>>    command buttons, “Change Settings” and “Done”, with only the first enabled.
>>
>>    - I decided to cancel my attempt to set up Thunderbird at this point,
>>    by closing the application.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on the appropriate way for me to more
>> safely set up Thunderbird to access my existing Sympatico account.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Frank Geitzler
>>
>>
>>
>>
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