[nSLUG] Security in virtual machines

Frank Geitzler frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.ca
Wed Sep 17 22:30:01 ADT 2014


On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 21:53 -0300, Jeff MacDonald wrote:
> You could always use the VMWare physical to virtual tool. That way
> you'd have a nice copy of the work station that you can run on a
> server or desktop virtualization software, archive it somewhere for
> safe keeping etc. ESXi is free.
Thanks, Jeff.  That sounds interestingf.  I will have to look into that
solution shortly.
Frank
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Frank Geitzler
> <frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>         On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 10:26 -0300, Chris R. Thompson wrote:
>         > Windows xp?
>         > Internet Explorer...
>         > ...wait.wut?
>         > did I catch that right, your developing in this environment?
>         Just
>         > stop.
>         Yes, Chris, I do agree -but the situation is not really that
>         bad -or
>         that simple.  Many years ago I developed this application,
>         free, for a
>         family resource organization which obtains the majority of its
>         funding
>         from gifts, grants, etc.  In order to obtain this funding, and
>         for their
>         own operation, they require many statistics and reports.
>          These reports
>         cover such things as: what services are provided to how many
>         families,
>         individuals, children; what programs are offered, how
>         frequently, how
>         well attended, in what areas, in which geographic areas within
>         a region
>         do the clients live, etc.  Minor changes to the system are
>         required as
>         circumstances change -for instance, the most recent change was
>         prompted
>         by the requirement of ten-digit telephone numbers.
>         The system will run on any Windows release, but my development
>         package
>         will not.  FoxPro is no longer supported by Microsoft, and the
>         release I
>         purchased when I retired (18 years ago) was followed by two
>         more
>         releases before Microsoft dropped support.
>         The application should be replaced by something more easily
>         supported,
>         on more modern equipment, etc. -but that would not be trivial.
>         Frank
>         > On 09/16/2014 11:17 PM, Frank Geitzler wrote:
>         >
>         > > Thanks to both Stephen Gregory and to Gerald Ruderman.
>         That does
>         > > answer
>         > > my question.  I still use Windows XP on a  desktop machine
>         which is
>         > > not
>         > > connected to the internet, to support an application for
>         which I
>         > > have a
>         > > development package (Visual Foxpro).  I attempted to
>         update the
>         > > Norton
>         > > Antivirus I have on that machine a number of months ago,
>         and while
>         > > doing
>         > > so was told that a problem was encountered, for which I
>         had to
>         > > remove
>         > > and reinstall the package.  When attempting to do so, I
>         was told
>         > > that my
>         > > Internet Explorer was at the wrong level, and I would have
>         to update
>         > > it
>         > > as well.  Since Microsoft had already dropped XP support,
>         I chose
>         > > not to
>         > > do so, but to just disconnect that machine from the
>         internet.
>         > > I do have Ubuntu on my laptop, and have Win-XP in
>         VirtualBox on that
>         > > machine, but am running low on space, so I was considering
>         just
>         > > using a
>         > > spare desktop machine, putting Ubuntu and VirtualBox on
>         it, and
>         > > using
>         > > that machine to do my development work.  I wouldn't bother
>         with
>         > > Norton,
>         > > I might use Avast! or something similar -much simpler to
>         install,
>         > > anyway.
>         > > Frank
>         > > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 11:29 -0400, Stephen Gregory wrote:
>         > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Frank Geitzler
>         > > > <frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>         > > > >
>         > > > > Can a virus-scanner (eg. Norton, or even Avast!) be
>         run in a VM?
>         > > >
>         > > > Absolutely. Most of the time a VM is just another
>         computer.
>         > > Software
>         > > > in a VM generally works unless it wants direct access to
>         hardware
>         > > such
>         > > > as a GPU, or tries to bit bang a parallel port. (even
>         then if your
>         > > > computer has iommu support direct hardware access can be
>         pretty
>         > > good.)
>         > > >
>         > >
>         > >
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