[nSLUG] Debian Wheezy partitioning...

Oliver Doepner odoepner at gmail.com
Thu Oct 2 22:17:53 ADT 2014

Oh, and I use XFS for the single partition.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Oliver Doepner <odoepner at gmail.com> wrote:

> I usually keep it simple and just use a single root partition. If you use
> a swap file instead of a swap partition, you can literally get away with
> just a single partition. I don't dualboot, but rather use VMs on Linux host
> system, so no separate partition for Windows either.
> For backups I would simply use an external disk (usb or esata) and rsync.
> The advantage of rsync is the incremental nature. I use it with a flag to
> not ever delete anything. I backup only /home, /usr/local and /etc. The
> system itself (/usr, /var and so on) is basically defined by the list of
> leaf packages which I generate using debfoster ("keepers" list).
> I heard LVM has significant overhead and is too complicated for my taste.
> At least for a single user laptop or desktop I don't quite see the point.
> Can anyone think of drawbacks of this single partition approach?
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM, <syorke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  I ended up going with:
>> /  15 GB
>> /home 62 GB
>> swap 3 GB
>> Thanks again to everyone that responded.
>> -S
>> *From:* Frank Geitzler <frank.geitzler at ns.sympatico.ca>
>> *Sent:* ‎Thursday‎, ‎October‎ ‎2‎, ‎2014 ‎12‎:‎54‎ ‎PM
>> *To:* Nova Scotia Linux User Group <nslug at nslug.ns.ca>
>> Stephen, I can't speak as an expert, but I can mention some things which
>> have worked for me.  First, I recommend that you have a stand-alone backup
>> drive.  I run ubuntu/windows7 on a laptop I bought about three years ago,
>> and when I purchased the laptop Staples had a 500Gb Seagate drive which I
>> purchased for an additional $75.
>>     I partitioned my ubuntu dual-boot with a separate /home partition,
>> with greatly-appreciated assistance from a fellow NSLUG member.  If you are
>> spending a lot of time developing, I am sure you want to want to protect
>> your investment in case something happens to your laptop disk drive, or to
>> the entire laptop, so I recommend you back up your home partition
>> frequently.
>>     Whenever I do a major update or upgrade, I simply connect the
>> external drive via USB, create a new sub-directory for the new backup
>> (deleting the oldest backup, if I am running low on space), CD
>> (change-directory) to the new backup directory on the external drive, and
>> then open a terminal window, obtain administrative authority with sudo, and
>> copy the entire home directory to the newly created backup directory on the
>> standalone drive with a command similar to the following:
>>     'cp home "/media/Expansion
>> Drive/laptop_bkp/Laptop_Home_Folder_Backup_September_01_2014/home" -a -p -r
>> -v'
>> I know that is verbose, but I keep a text log of backups and
>> installations, and can do a 'cut-and-paste' to copy the command from the
>> text log to the terminal window, and then make minor changes to the name of
>> the new backup before pressing <Enter>.
>>     Additionally, I suggest that you encrypt your home partition, since
>> laptops can be stolen (and hard drives do die), and you probably have
>> sensitive information there.  If you do encrypt the partition, I recommend
>> that you keep an external record of the encryption key -I encryped my home
>> partition, but I didn't record the key, and have been very concerned every
>> time I do an update, in case my home directory does somehow become
>> unrecoverable.  I don't know if simply restoring the backup completely to a
>> new computer would work -but I do hope so.
>> Frank
>> On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 11:13 -0300, Dave Flogeras wrote:
>> Hey Stephen,
>> I would highly recommend reading up on LVM2.  I have recently (and
>> recently only due to my own ignorance) discovered its power; even on a
>> single disk setup.  I usually have the same dilemma when setting up a
>> machine, I like having VMs on a separate partition, my dev stuff on
>> another, as well as home, and since I use Gentoo also the package
>> manager data, and, and.....  With LVM you can push some of the
>> guess-work of "how much room will I likely need for VMs" into the
>> future.  I usually take my best guess of my requirements, and leave
>> some unallocated room on the disk for later.  It is quite easy to
>> expand LVM partitions and their filesystems later should you need to
>> (or even reduce them to reclaim space).
>> Other benefits include:
>> - Adding another disk seamlessly (you can add another physical disk,
>> and make an existing filesystem span both without the filesystem being
>> aware)
>> - Snapshot-backups, you can (provided you have some unallocated room)
>> make a temporary snapshot of a partition, and back it up while still
>> using it.  The snapshot remains frozen in time for consistent backups.
>> - Migrate data to another disk (let's say you ran out of room, you can
>> add a disk, migrate the partitions while still using them, then remove
>> the old disk).  I recently wanted to encrypt a system, so I plugged in
>> another disk, moved all my volumes over to the new physical disk,
>> encrypted the original, and migrated back; all while using the system
>> as normal.  The migration took about a day, but without any downtime.
>> - Many more, especially in multi disk setups
>> The only potential downside I can think of is if you wanted to  share
>> this disk with Windows, I'm not sure of the state of Windows tools for
>> reading LVM partitions.
>> It is pretty easy to set up (I use the cmdline tools, but if you're a
>> GUI guy I imagine there are great tools for that too).
>> You pay only a tiny price (like an extra pointer lookup at the kernel
>> level when doing slow disk IO anyway).
>> Hope that helps in some way,
>> Dave
>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Stephen Yorke <syorke at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > All,
>> > I am setting up a development laptop and looking for suggestions on
>> > partitioning the disc.
>> >
>> > The laptop is nothing special.  P4 Hyper-Threaded, 1GB RAM and an 80GB disc.
>> >
>> > I do install some opt stuff as I can see from a few VMs I have running but
>> > wanted to hit up the experts on a good setup since I will be doing C/C++
>> > coding and want to make sure if something crashes, I can easily recover.  My
>> > code will be in TFS but I want this machine to be around for as long as
>> > possible.
>> >
>> > Advice greatly appreciated.
>> > -Stephen
>> >
>> > Sent from my Samsung Ativ S running WP8
>> >
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