[nSLUG] perl and web sites

Norm anamelech at gmail.com
Thu Feb 27 14:48:32 AST 2014

I've been using perl for 12 years, and I'm still doing perl everyday(catalyst MVC for my hobby projects, and non-catalyst perl for tooling for work.) I've started looking into Python 3 & Django as a replacement for Perl/Moose/Catalyst work I do, as I find OOP still feels bolted on and clunky in perl.

When push comes to shove though, I fall back to Perl, because it still gets things done.

If it isn't broken... :)

On February 27, 2014 1:42:46 PM AST, Jeff MacDonald <jeff at bignose.ca> wrote:
>I find people tend to recommend that method when they don’t know the
>other language. (Ie, is he a perl expert?)
>I coded perl for 10 years, now I’m tuning my skills up with Ruby (for
>CHEF) and Python. I chose them cause they feel modern an there is a lot
>of cool new shiney things for them. No other reason. Perl is still a
>fine language.
>On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Robin Murray <nibor.yarrum at gmail.com>
>> I have a web site written in perl/template toolkit with a custom
>designed MVC framework (no dancer/catalyst/mojo). This was a design
>choice at the outset by a partner. 
>> I've been looking into on-boarding a tech partner who is in love with
>rails. His first reaction was to recommend converting the web site to
>rails, partly due to his perception that perl is a legacy language and
>partly due to his perception that he can find more rails programmers
>than perl programmers. 
>> I'm not in love with any particular language, couldn't care less in
>fact, and from the little I've dabbled with ruby, I really like the
>simple syntax and 'all oop' approach, and certainly the rails interface
>to the db is simpler. 
>> But what this new guy is pushing is a large sideways jump, and I
>haven't been able to decide yet if it's just because he wants to be on
>the latest sexy language he's enamoured with, or if there is an actual
>business case for this. One of the things that concerns me is the lack
>of performance of ruby vs perl (or mod_perl in this case). I don't want
>to do the 100 mile sideways jump to arrive at exactly what we have
>today, but with shitty performance. I also don't believe there is
>anything that rails can bring to the table that perl can't already do.
>> But I'm talking through my hat. I don't have experience with rails.
>Has anyone here worked with both perl and rails web sites, and can add
>some perspective? I'm just looking for points to consider so I can be a
>bit more informed. 
>> Also, I was wondering how many perl vs ruby programmers are on this
>list or people generally know. Is rails really more popular than perl
>now? It is hard to find good perl programmers in Halifax, but are ruby
>programmers correspondingly falling out of the woodwork there?
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> --
>> Robin Murray
>> Hatchet Lake,
>> Nova Scotia
>> Canada
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