[nSLUG] Why Redhat is a frontrunner for business environments
rb.ashley at gmail.com
Mon Feb 26 01:34:49 AST 2007
Donald, you get an Oscar for the best A+ essay in the e-short
category! Seriously, some persuasive arguments you mount.
Interesting, how things like liability, brand, and band-wagoneering
hold sway over the actual merits of this or that product.
I might have guessed...but for shame, didn't.
On 2/25/07, D G Teed <donald.teed at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/25/07, Robert Ashley <rb.ashley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is it true that Red Hat is a frontrunner for business environments? If
> > so, why is that? I see too that in Canada at least, Xandros is trying
> > to, or has made business a key target market.
> > Whadda they got that the rest ain't?
> > bob
> I my view and experience it is very simple: Redhat provides a major
> brand identity, and indemnity.
> Indemnity isn't such a factor in Canada, but in the U.S., or with U.S. lead
> running operations in Canada, it is a factor. If something goes wrong,
> is no one at Debian.org to sue. Having noticed the Dallas-Forth Worth
> yellow pages phone book has 110 pages for attorneys, I think that
> says a lot about how interesting that is to people or businesses there.
> Brand identity is something that works for managers making decisions
> based on "business reasons". Although Netcraft shows that Debian is the #2
> platform of web server in the world, managers at the top level of companies
> have often never heard of it.
> The way I see it, this is like arguing to buy a fleet of Toyota's around
> The CEO types are going to be much more comfortable going with one of
> the domestic big three, even though any of the Japanese big three are
> for many purposes and lower cost of ownership. Now 17 year's later, Toyota
> is the #1 brand, and if you buy one today, NO ONE asks "why are
> you buying an import?". I expect the same will eventually happen with
> Redhat and Suse's brand weakening. I also expect the news to
> get around that what the big brand names actually provide you is
> very little (say if you are implementing something like Horde -
> Redhat does nothing to make this easier than in Debian).
> I suppose a third aspect is that the sysadmin geeks don't get the respect,
> because they talk in techie language and get all romantic about strange
> OSes you'd never give to your mother, like BSD, Slackware, Plan 9, etc.
> These sysadmin types push for their favorite distro for their personal
> favorite reason rather than for reasons of infrastructure support. Once
> a shop has been poisoned with that experience and the guy who set
> them up has gone, the CEO types don't want a repeat experience of
> giving the sysadmin too much liberty and then finding they can't
> hire someone with the same knowledge set.
> The sheer number of different Linux distros is also a big shock to the
> CEO who tries to spend even a Saturday afternoon researching their
> options. It immediately convinces them that there must be a lot
> of unsupported and crappy distros amongst the few good ones,
> and it is best to standardize around a big commercially supported
> brand, even if one never intends to buy support.
> Things are looking good right now for Debian. The latest Debian news item
> mentioned HP has announced hardware support for Debian, putting them right
> up there with SUSE and Redhat. Another news item mentioned an election
> system in New Zealand which is powered by Debian and Postgresql. None of
> these things could happen unless Debian was a seriously robust
> and well maintained distro, and these events just back that up again.
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