[nSLUG] Re: On irrelevant linux questions and taking things seriously

David Payne dapayne12 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 12 00:09:47 ADT 2007


I myself would consider myself a plain old "Linux user" without
professional or hobbyist attached to the front.  I don't get paid to
use Linux so I don't consider myself a professional much the same way
as I am not a professional firefighter but a volunteer firefighter
because I do not get paid.

Dictionary.com tells me that a hobby is an "activity or interest
pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation".
Although I do have interest and enjoyment when using my computer at
times there is much more to it than that.  It is much the same way
that a Windows user might not consider themselves a hobbyist Windows

I don't even know if this is a point worth talking about on nSLUG but
I just want to agree with Mike that it is hard to split people into
two groups like that.

David Payne

On 4/11/07, Mike Spencer <mspencer at tallships.ca> wrote:
> I won't quote any of the recent posts lest the author think, wrongly,
> that I'm taking a  personal run at the individual. But WRT the mention
> of "professional" vs. "hobbyist"...
> The notion of "professional" does not partition the universe into two
> parts -- "professional" and the remainder "hobbyist".  I'm not a
> professional programmer altho my name is on the official alumni list
> for Project Athena.  I'm not a professional auto mechanic altho I did
> it full time for several years.  I'm not a profession millwright, nor
> farmer nor carpenter nor biochemist but I have varying chops for all
> of those.
>        A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
>        invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
>        a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
>        the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
>        solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
>        a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
>        gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
>                              -- Robert Heinlein "Time Enough For Love"
> So please don't dis and condescendingly dismiss everyone who isn't a
> "professional" as a "hobbyist".
> I encounter this same thing on the blacksmithing list (and I do think
> of myself as a profession artist-blacksmith.) A few individuals seem
> to think that if one isn't running a metalworking business, not
> "summoning the aspect and taking on the attribute" of a business
> operator, one must be a mere hobbyist.
> If you do what you love, if you take your Bucky Fuller antientropic
> imperative to the workbench, if you follow any one of a number of wise
> people's guides to living, you probably won't fit easily into *any*
> "professional" role but neither will what you do be easily dismissed
> as a hobby.
> There.  Now I feel better. :-)
> ObLinux: I erred in response to one Michael Gillie's questions: I do use
> an old, closed-src version of Netscape with Linux.
> - Mike
> --
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