[nSLUG] Need fix for plain text showing garbage in Mac (Word)

bob ashley ashley at chebucto.ca
Tue May 17 21:59:06 ADT 2005

Thanks Ben. Helpful as usual!

Oh, but I tried saving the original resume text from gedit as Current
Local ISO-8859. Nope, wouldn't let me, complaining about an 'invalid
byte sequence'. I tried opening and saving a new, fresh test file in
this format. That worked okay. 

I also edited the file with vi [with the grace of a bull in a China
shop]. It seems to look okay.


On Tue, 2005-17-05 at 18:03 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 17:49 -0300, bob ashley wrote:
> > A practical problem to do with text/word processing. Perhaps someone has
> > a suggestion. [new user question]
> > 
> > I wrote a gedit (default GUI text editor/Debian sarge/Gnome) file of my
> > resume. Sent it to my wife at work. She says it's no good, sundry
> > garbage characters for apostrophes, parentheses and such. I assumed
> > gedit would give me generic ASCI text. Whoops.
> > 
> > There are three Save Options:
> > 1) Unicode (UTF-8)[default]
> > 2) Current Locale (ISO-8859-1)
> > 3) Western (ISO-8815-1)
> > 4) Add or Remove
> > 
> > I saved the file as the default, Unicode, then emailed as an attachment.
> > She opened it at work with a Mac using Word. No good. 
> Unicode should be universal, but isn't.  Try "Current Locale" instead.
> Most people can deal with ISO Latin-1 (8859-1).
> Another solution is not to make use of "auto curly quotes" etc.  Check
> your editor docs to see how to turn those features off.
> > Short-term aim: A generic text file which renders a clean read for Mac,
> > Windows users, whatever.  
> > 
> > Long-term aim: Extricate myself from the old word processing/GUI habit,
> > go to text editing. Select and learn a suitable editor, with the long
> > haul in mind. 
> >  
> > Googling around, I see the main instruments are pico (nano), vi, and
> > emacs. But I'm confused, though, by flavours of these, eg vim. 
> Nano is simple but limited.  You should learn it because it's pretty
> standard.
> Vi is a bit more difficult.  It's a modal editor, which many people
> don't like, but is really efficient once you get over the learning
> curve.  You should learn that too -- at least the basics -- because you
> never know when you'll be stuck on a system with nothing but vi and wish
> you knew how to use it. :)
> Vim is a great Vi clone.  That would be the one I'd recommend.
> If you want the power of Vim but the simplicity of a modeless editor,
> and "standard" key shortcuts (like ^C, ^X, ^V, ^Z for copy, cut, paste
> and undo) then I recommend Cream:
> http://cream.sf.net/
> Ben
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