[nSLUG] local ns e-govt and oss???

Bob Ashley ax386 at chebucto.ca
Thu Feb 17 15:05:20 AST 2005


Some interesting angles I hadn't thought of. Thanks Miles.

Miles Thompson wrote:
> At 11:21 AM 2/17/2005, you wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the input, Miles.
>>
>> Miles Thompson wrote:
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>>> Bob,
>>> They'll all swear they're cash-strapped, but check their expenditures 
>>> and where they have surpluses buried.
>>
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>> That'll probably change, at least somewhat, now that they've switched 
>> to full accrual accounting. It is a fact, too, that much expenditure, 
>> <snip>
>>
>> But, putting the political aside, momentarily...Would you support an 
>> administrative initiative towards unix-based municipal egovernment? I 
>> notice Microsoft is retaliating, claiming that in the end, Unix will 
>> cost more than proprietary setups. We have to be dubious about that 
>> counterclaim, for sure.
>>
>> Do you think citizens would reap more benefits than incurred costs? 
>> Politics aside.
> 
> 
> Yes, I'd support that, and of course there are transition costs. I'd 
> wager the MSFT argument for staying with Windows is that it's a familiar 
> environment and people know how to work within it. This Linux stuff is 
> strange and intimidating, and be prepared for high costs of retraining.
> 
> They are looking, of course, at what would be a v. high cost of 
> switching everything over in a lump; any transition is likely to be 
> gradual, and that would be their greatest fear.

What's 'a v.'?

> And of course there are legacy apps, written for the Windows 
> environment, which cannot be migrated. Of course MSFT helps with this by 
> periodically obsoleting whole chunks of its technology. Example? It's 
> not a smooth transition from Vb to VB.NET, and if one wants to (or has 
> to) move from DAO to ADO (let's rearrange the letters but kill backwards 
> compatibility) there massive code changes are required.

Okay, can you clue in the clueless on some of the cryptic abbreviations? 
Ha,ha!

Bob


>> Bob
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>>> Cheers - Miles
>>>
>>> At 06:40 AM 2/17/2005, you wrote:
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>>>> NSLUG Pundits,
>>>>
>>>> I'm doing a policy paper which will explore the idea of municipal 
>>>> egovernment in NS looking at open source software (oss), perhaps as 
>>>> a pilot project. If report looks plausible, I'll submit it to 
>>>> Service Nova Scotia and Municipal Relations and Union of Nova Scotia 
>>>> Municipalities.
>>>>
>>>> Any opinions, comments, guffaws, sneers, cheers?
>>>>
>>>> Risking one more step, let's say, hypothetically they went for it. 
>>>> Would anyone in the Linux community ever consider donating some 
>>>> experience to say, a small, cash-strapped municipality? Perhaps in 
>>>> the form of a consulting committee or some such other vehicle? The 
>>>> idea here is citizen-engagement and citizen consultation. I know 
>>>> it's a tough sell. Cynicism and mistrust rules the era. On the other 
>>>> hand, the oss community does have the some features of 
>>>> 'community-minded' people. Just trying to get a feel for possible 
>>>> reaction to such a suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Declaring my interest: If there's any hint of a supportive community 
>>>> lurking in the background, it would give my argument more persuasive 
>>>> force. And, of course, I really do think there's reasons to explore 
>>>> this egovernment option.
>>>>
>>>> Input heartily welcomed!
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>> (the immigrant postponing Debian install until piled up schoolwork 
>>>> complete...early April)
>>>>
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