[nSLUG] Re: Any nsluggers in Valley?

David Payne dapayne12 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 28 19:43:20 ADT 2005


On 8/28/05, Bob Ashley <ashley at chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> Thanks, Donald. I like your kiosk idea. It's non-threatening. And your
> precautionary approach to risk management is really smart. It provides for a
> contingency cushion, a comfortable fallback while new users explore a new
> desktop environment.
> 
> I'm glad that you also sent up a red flag concerning OSS advocacy, that is, that
> pushing OSS ought to be avoided. "Getting people [just] to think about the
> alternatives and the cost savings", as you say, seems to be wise early step.
> 
> Thanks for weighing in with suggestions. They add up to a useful checklist of
> important things to consider.
> 
> Bob Ashley
> 
> 
> Quoting Donald Teed <donald.teed at gmail.com>:
> 
> > As with others, I wouldn't suggest sending people home with
> > Linux install CDs to test drive open source ware. It could
> > backfire into a general negative impression.
> >
> > If you want people to test drive Linux, I'd make it a kiosk
> > type of environment - something like one of the internet terminals
> > at the local library.
> >
> > I'd consider getting people to think about the alternatives and
> > the cost saving of open source applications. Can Mozilla,
> > Open Office and other applications run on Windows get them
> > to consider the open source options, without losing the availability of the
> > habitual applications? This allows exploration without the risk.
> > There is money to be saved just in dropping applications
> > such as MS Office. The flip side of that is to install
> > Codeweaver's Cross Over Office on a Linux box so that
> > familiar Windows applications can be used.
> >
> > Lastly, don't go into it like this is a mission of an open
> > source advocate. If you show that the only thing you
> > are interested in is promotion of open source, others will
> > not have confidence that you have their business interests
> > in mind. If their interests are not your highest priority,
> > they may not trust your opinions.
> >
> > In my estimation, it comes down to balancing cost savings
> > of using less commercial software and OS, within
> > a plan that allows people to fall back to the old software
> > if that is the only way to get something done.
> >
> > You have to realize that sometimes, a Windows client is the only
> > package available for something. Even a technical
> > giant like IBM has run into a wall trying to convert all of
> > their desktops to Linux for this very reason.
> >
> > --Donald Teed
> >
> > On 8/26/05, Bob Ashley <ashley at chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm moving to Berwick next week. Any nsluggers in the Valley area?
> > >
> > > I'll be working for the Town office. I envision a small OSS
> > > pilot project, maybe just a single desktop or two (like, say, my desk!) to
> >
> > > see
> > > if it
> > > piques
> > > office and council curiosity. The objective, of course, would be to save
> > > taxpayers' money, and to raise consciousness about the OSS alternative. I
> > > have
> > > some discretionary authority, albeit
> > > limited. Success for a small pilot might be defined as a single OSS
> > > desktop in
> > > Town used regularly for functional work, but doing so minus the attendant
> > > costs
> > > of proprietary
> > > licenses. Part of the pilot might also include distributing free OSS to
> > > employees/officials for their home machines and/or an OSS desktop in the
> > > adjoing
> > > regional library, or in the local seniors centre.
> > >
> > > I have a hunch that a small project, done really well, might get the
> > > Council
> > > excited enough to spread the word a little. Would anyone here be
> > > interested in
> > > a
> > > citizen/techno advisory role?
> > >
> > > I've submitted a short article to 'Municipal Open Line' the newsletter of
> > > the
> > > Union of NS Municipalities, introducing basic OSS possibilities (a general
> > > pro/con
> > > overview), The Union have offered to publish it. All elected officials and
> > > municipal
> > > administrators as well as employees of Service Nova Scotia and Municipal
> > > Relations receive this newsletter.
> > >
> > > Of course, any nsluggers (and/or Dal cs students) interested in partnering
> > > wouldn't necessarily need to be geographically near
> > > by. Perhaps an online virtual Citizen's OSS Advisory Committee?
> > >
> > > Any ideas, caveats, suggestions, criticisms most welcome!
> > >
> > > Bob Ashley
> > >
> > >
> > >
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