[nSLUG] kernel setup stack overlaps lilo

Paul Boudreau pbx at eastlink.ca
Sat Mar 13 22:25:06 AST 2004


Dop Ganger wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Paul Boudreau wrote:
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>>Dop Ganger wrote:
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>>>On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Paul Boudreau wrote:
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>>>>was add a few icons, a mail/pim client and some odds
>>>>and ends to a free desktop environment (Gnome) that
>>>>half the stuff doesn't work right in anyways.
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>>>Because they also wrote Mono. Also there's Red Carpet
>>>Enterprise for machine management (which you might think of as Zen for
>>>Linux, after a fashion). RCE is fairly integral to NNLS, as well.
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>>You're right, after seeing this link
>>http://www.sys-con.com/linux/article.cfm?id=997
>>I can see I was off a bit, so perhaps I should rephrase
>>my assertion as, Can someone tell me what makes
>>Ximian worth $15-20 million U.S. when all they've
>>done is added a few things to Gnome.
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>I did, above. I've left it in, so you can read it. Novell is currently
>betting heavily on Linux, and need to get Netware type services running on
>Linux (hence NNLS, which involves RCE). RCE does not have very much at all
>to do with Gnome. I'm guessing you're a home user that isn't overly
>experienced with dealing with multiple servers (and when I mean multiple,
>I'm talking about a rack of servers plus supporting hardware, which is
>usually on the order of 40-50 servers). Once you get past this point,
>scalability of management becomes a major issue - this is what people pay
>for (to pick an example) the RedHat Update Network for.
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>>As far as all the Mono stuff goes, I'm not a coder, just
>>someone who dabbles, but from what I read, C# is no
>>better than Java, does pretty much the same thing and
>>is a legal quagmire waiting to happen. When you can
>>get something more than Muine (?) written in it, I might
>>reconsider.
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>Er. You *do* realise that the idea is it's going to compete with the whole
>Microsoft .Net suite? And that once Mono is complete, you'll be able to
>take .Net code and run it under Linux? Which means you can then take code
>written for Windows and run it under Linux, thus ensuring better
>scalability? You don't? Perhaps you might want to read through
>http://www.go-mono.com/faq.html then.
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>>You sound like you know them, can I still get a Rupert doll? I like that
>>part...
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>Well, I don't see any reason why they'd want to give you one, but if you
>ask nicely I don't see any reason why not. I believe they're handed out
>fairly freely at trade shows; I know they're at RWL in Toronto next month,
>if you're desperate then you could attend and pick one up then.
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>Cheers... Dop.
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I'm sure they are doing good work, and big things are
expected from them. You're right, I'm just a home user
and have no idea what's involved in running more than
3 computers at once. Am guessing there's a lot of finger
crossing involved.
Am also guessing that Toronto is too far to go for a stuffed
monkey.



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