[nSLUG] kernel setup stack overlaps lilo

Paul Boudreau pbx at eastlink.ca
Sat Mar 13 17:27:58 AST 2004


M Taylor wrote:

>On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 01:45:30PM -0400, Paul Boudreau wrote:
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>>I stick to my guns, Slackware is 15% of the Linux market
>>and am quite sure that they are people doing some quite
>>interesting things with it, just because you don't know
>>about them doesn't mean they don't exist.
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>What's the source of your linux market (userbase)? I'm
>curious to look at it. 
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>>As far as the debate of what is free and what isn't, and
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>Free Software is pretty well defined, and so is Open Source(tm)
>Software (www.opensource.org). So that's not up for debate really.
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>>position to be totally against people making money, it's
>>just that after so many years of not having any, I've
>>developed a <healthy/unhealthy> contempt for it, and
>>those who promote it as the answer to all problems.
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>I made no claim that it is the answer to all problems, and
>in fact I was trying to refute your criticism of Red Hat Inc.
>and SuSE Inc. that they are not free/open source software 
>because they offer software, typically with a service contract
>or support subscription, for a fee.
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>>And...can someone tell me why Ximian was sold for,
>>what I heard was $50 million when all they ever did
>>was add a few icons, a mail/pim client and some odds
>>and ends to a free desktop environment (Gnome) that
>>half the stuff doesn't work right in anyways.
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>Valuation of a company is a complex thing I certainly
>don't understand, but I can tell you it includes not
>only the tangile assets of the company (things like 
>the computers its owns), but the intangile assets like
>any patents or copyrights (i.e. software they wrote) and
>then there are things like revenue stream (expected number
>of contracts to be renewed for how much), income potential 
>(e.g. leader in making high-quality desktop software for
>growing Linux corporate market), and even the skills and
>knowledge of their current staff (and 'famous' employees
>sometime have to sign new contracts to stay for so long).
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>Somebody would normally pay $50 million dollars for
>Ximian simply if they expect they can make a _profit_ from
>controlling the company and its assets.
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>>You mention funding for research and the like, but how
>>much of that money goes to new development, come on.
>>It's becoming all about lawyers now (those bastards).
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>Companies like Red Hat Inc., Suse, SGI, HP, Intel, and IBM spend
>more on developers create free/open software (or drivers) for Linux 
>than fighting Linux related legal battles.
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All I know, is I wouldn't reccomend to a friend that they
buy something when they can get it for free. Simple.



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