[nSLUG] KDE with Mozilla/Netscape bug
dteed at artistic.ca
Tue Mar 4 22:25:09 AST 2003
Jigdo is one thing about Debian that has failed me.
I've tried both the Windows (DOS) and Linux clients
and neither could suceed to download the parts to build
an ISO image file. The DOS client crapped out with document
not found errors, and I repeatedly saw "Arghh! This shouldn't
happen" errors on Linux. I gave up after farting around
with that for a few hours and did an install via the
The other surprise for me was going through the package
selection process in dselect. I saw many items in there
that I would not consider part of the operating
system. Individual perl modules and little apps
like falselogin make the install process more time
consuming to complete, and actually increase your chances
of missing something you do need. Thousands of
packages isn't a good thing when the selection system
is a rather flat tree.
There should be more levels of category and subcategory
in the dselect interface, and some thought should go
into having a section like "databases" that DB packages go
under rather than "misc". I can't imagine trying to
use dselect as a Linux newbie! Expanded descriptions in
there would help, or a way to view the contents of
the package (ala gnorpm).
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Vikram wrote:
> Now I am tempted. Jigdo........, serve me fast!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Goodaire" <tim at momentumitgroup.com>
> To: <nslug at nslug.ns.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [nSLUG] KDE with Mozilla/Netscape bug
> > I've tried Debian and Gentoo, and I'd recommend either of them. It really
> > depends on what you want. Gentoo tends to be very "bleeding-edge", so you
> > lose some stability. It's source-based, so it's very fast, but it takes a
> > while to set up (you compile just about everything).
> > Debian is very stable, and has been around much longer. It also allows you
> > choose packages depending on their license, which is great if that matters
> > you.
> > Both of them are quick with security updates, and they're dead-easy to
> > Take a look at both of them and decide for yourself. I went through the
> > thing. Started with Mandrake for a year or so, then started looking around
> > for something less bloated, with better control of what was installed.
> > I'm happily running Gentoo right now, but Debian is a very close second
> > choice.
> > Tim
> > On March 4, 2003 07:51 pm, Dean Mitchell wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 17:11, jesse wrote:
> > > > I'm thinking it might be time to try a different distro. Mandrake is
> > > > nice if you're just getting into Linux, but at this point I'd like a
> > > > little more control over just what's included in my system. I'm
> > > > either Debian or Gentoo. Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Let the distro wars begin...
> > >
> > > DEBIAN all the way!
> > >
> > > Caution, Debian does not hold your hand like Mandrake or Red Hat so be
> > > prepaired to RTFM, visit www.debian.org, search Google, or ask here. The
> > > install is really not that difficult but just getting used to the
> > > "Debian way" takes some time and patience.
> > >
> > > About the window manager thing, I find KDE a little too resource
> > > intensive so I prefer xfce or WindowMaker for the desktop.(you can still
> > > run most KDE apps on these desktops).
> > >
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